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March 15th, 2005 at 12:01 am

When will they ever learn?

Recalling his experiences at Harvard, Henry Kissinger remarked that academic politics were so vicious because there is so little at stake. He could just as well have been speaking of current Japanese-South Korean relations. Someone should tell South Korean Foreign Minister Ban Ki Moon, who last week blustered that Seoul was willing to risk its ties with Japan over the dispute involving the Takeshima (Japanese name) / Dokdo (Korean name) islets in the Sea of Japan (world name) / East Sea (Korean name).

Anti-Japanese sentiment in South Korea (world name) / South Corea (Korean name) has flared again because the Shimane Prefecture Assembly in Japan is set to designate February 22 as Takeshima Day this week. The Japanese government claims that the islets have been part of Shimane Prefecture since 1905. The prefecture has taken several steps this year to mark the 100th anniversary of their “administration” of the islets, though South Korea handles that chore now.

Japanese ambassador to South Korea Toshiyuki Takano also stated that Takeshima/Dokdo “historically and legally are part of Japan’s territory.” These comments, combined with Shimane’s actions, have rubbed the Koreans raw. Several Korean National Assembly members want Takano sent back to Japan.

Disputed islandsThe two islets at issue are an estimated 230,967 square meters, approximately five times the size of the Tokyo Dome, a baseball stadium and concert venue in Japan. In contrast, Central Park in New York City occupies more than 3 million square meters of land. The islets are uninhabited and of interest to the two countries only because they would extend their fishing rights—and give politicians a chance to pound the pulpit.

Foreign Minister Ban unloaded after Seoul scrambled four fighter jets to intercept a business jet sent by the Asahi Shimbun in Japan to take photographs of the islands (despite the excellent photos of the islands that already exist.) The foreign minister also suggested that “Some Japanese politicians and officials should refrain from making inappropriate remarks that could provoke or hurt the minds of Koreans.”

But Ban need not have spoken. Recent events already show that South Korea was willing to risk its ties with Japan. For example:

Ban recently postponed a scheduled trip to Japan because of the dispute. He had planned to discuss methods of dealing with North Korea and its nuclear weapons capabilities, as well as developing friendly ties between the two countries. 2005 has been designated as a year of Japanese-Korean friendship, with many events planned to commemorate the 40 years since the normalization of diplomatic relations. But Takeshima/Dokdo was more important than Pyongyang’s weapons because, in Ban’s words, the issue could inflame Korean passions. Here’s a link to a Japanese article.

A group from Japan’s ruling Liberal-Democratic Party cancelled a three-day visit to South Korea to discuss possible economic sanctions against North Korea. The leader of the group said that an environment did not exist for the calm exchange of opinions with the South Korean government and the ruling Uri Party. Here’s a link to a Japanese article.

The city of Matsue in Shimane Prefecture was to send a soccer team to Jinju in South Korea for a friendly match as part of a friendship agreement between the two cities. The 19 members of the amateur soccer team were to have spent four days in South Korea. That game and trip have been cancelled at Jinju’s request, however, which noted that media coverage of the islet issue had the potential to create problems. Here’s a link to a Japanese article.

Korean National Assembly member Lee Mi Kyung of the Uri Party revealed that the Assembly might cancel some of the governmental-level events scheduled for the Japan-Korea Friendship Year. Remarked Lee, the chair of the Assembly’s Culture and Tourism Committee, “There’s no need for a friendship year when an ambassador representing a country that distorts history and claims another nation’s territory makes thoughtless remarks.”

There also were calls by some assembly members to change the name of the East Sea (Korean name) to its “original name” of the Sea of Corea (goofball name). Here’s a full account in English in the Korean Times.

See CoreansMore disturbing to me than the article’s content is the accompanying photo. It reveals the South Koreans showing their shared bloodlines with their cousins to the North by dressing up children in costumes, sticking flags in their hands, and trotting them out for propaganda photos. Note the “Sea of Corea” banner in English at the top of the photo.

You just knew that Pyongyang was going to find a way to put in their two cents (probably counterfeit), and by jingo, they found one. Continuing their impersonation of The Marx Brothers doing a film version of George Orwell’s 1984, the North Korean government used the daily newspaper Minju Choson to assert that Takeshima/Dokdo was Korean territory and that the only reason the Japanese claimed sovereignty was to “launch another invasion of our country”. The paper also said the government would “ruthlessly and sternly punish those who violated the nation’s dignity and sovereignty.” Here’s the article in Japanese.

Friends?Frankly, I don’t care whom the islets belong to. Korean behavior is counterproductive, but some people are not happy unless they’re not happy (particularly with the Japanese). For their part, the Japanese have been just as clueless by pushing a trivial issue in Shimane and sending a diplomat to Seoul who doesn’t know when to diplomatically smile and keep his mouth shut, despite being well aware of the Korean taste for brinkmanship. If Japan and South Korea were adolescent boys (instead of behaving like bad imitations) I would grab both of the knuckleheads by their shirt collars, sit them down, and explain some of the facts of political and economic life in the West to them.

First, I would point out that while the Japanese colonized Korea for 35 years, Great Britain colonized the United States for more than 150 years, until the United States fought for and won its independence. I also would point out that just 30 years later, the two countries fought another war, during which the British sacked Washington D.C. and burnt the White House. (The White House was painted white to hide the burn marks on the walls, which still exist.) They also invaded Baltimore while their naval vessels bombarded the city, inspiring Francis Scott Key to write The Star Spangled Banner.

In other words, every day in the United States people sing a song about the British attacking their country. Yet far from harboring malice toward each other, today the U.S. and Great Britain are each other’s closest ally.

I would then explain that despite close, long-standing cultural ties, friction is a constant in the relationship between the U.S. and Europe. In addition to their well-known diplomatic differences, they are involved in endless trade disputes. For example, the EU banned hormone-feed beef exports from the U.S. and refused to end it even though the WTO ruled there was “no scientific evidence” to support it. In turn, the U.S. retaliated with duties on EU goods, including mustard and cheese. The EU then filed a complaint with the WTO against these duties.

The U.S. complains about EU farm subsidies and food product standards, and the EU objects to U.S. restrictions on trade and investment. There have been rows over bananas, steel, and U.S. corporate tax breaks to exporters. In March 2004 the EU started raising its tariffs on some U.S. goods. The EU apparently wants to link the lifting of EU sanctions to the end of U.S. subsidies to Boeing, started after the U.S. complained of EU subsidies to Airbus.

I would conclude by telling the two boys that the EU and the U.S. are each other’s largest single trading partner in goods and services and each other’s most important source and destination for direct foreign investment. They account for about 21% of each other’s trade in goods and 35.3% per cent of each other’s trade in services. They invest more in each other’s economies than they do in any other area of the world.

Peace!Daniel Hamilton has called the US-EU relationship a “$2.5 trillion transatlantic economy . . . [that] employs 12 million workers on both sides of the Atlantic who enjoy high wages, high labor and environmental standards, and open, largely non-discriminatory access to each other’s markets”.

In short, despite ongoing problems, the U.S. and the EU are making each other wealthy. They are in a win-win situation and they are not about to kill the goose that lays the golden egg over a bunch of bananas. Now if the two numbskulls in East Asia could only figure that out.

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    Pretty slanted posting there guys with some truly disingenuous and snide jabs thrown in for good measure.

    The one thing of many that I will bring up is the ridiculous comparison of the British/US colonization to the Japan/Korea colonization.

    Do you really want to try and compare the two?

    First, Korea was a sovereign nation, invaded and colonized by Japan after brutalizing, raping and burning the body of the queen of Korea.

    Next, you have the horrifically brutal colonial period and the attempt to wipe from memory the culture of Korea.

    How about your convenient forgetting of just how long it took for the US and GB to have ‘normal’ relations after the War of Independence? Or maybe the fact that the US quickly grew into a mighty nation that really didn’t have anything to fear from GB?

    Comparing the situations is apples and oranges.

    It would have been nice to have read a even handed look at the current situation that has developed between Korea and Japan. Unfortunately, that isn’t found here.

    Plunge on March 15th, 2005
  • 2

    The picture shows at least 2 big (sorta) islands. Howsabout both countries getting one each!

    Problem solved. Where do I pick up my check?

    corsair the rational pirate on March 15th, 2005
  • 3

    Plunge. Your recent cheerleading for Korean commenters and brushing aside of the remarks of Japanese commenters indicate that you might be the one with a balance problem.

    Diamondback on March 15th, 2005
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    Diamondback:

    Because of supporting Na Nam-ja’s reasoned response and rejecting a trolls attempt at bashing not to mention the fact that in my comments and Na Nam-ja’s comments we take the president of Korea to task? I’m more than willing to call Korea to task when called for.

    The post by Ampontan is unnecessarily sarcastic towards Korea about a flashpoint issue. This is a subject that can be reasonably discussed and considering the situation as it sits now, a bit of calm discussion is what is needed. The post above is quite insulting in many respects, I just addressed one of the more outrageous ones in a short response that could have gone on and on.

    Still and all, this is a great blog, this post though is on the more annoying side.

    Plunge on March 15th, 2005
  • 5

    Now the Sea of Corea.
    See “East Sea” was a lie.

    Fed up on March 15th, 2005
  • 6

    Fed up:

    Actually, consulting many older maps, the area between Korea and Japan was referred to as either the “East Sea” or the “Sea of Korea.”

    East Sea seems to be a nice compromise.

    Plunge on March 15th, 2005
  • 7

    From where you sit, it’s probably harder to judge just how pissed off the average Korean is. You can let Koizumi know the fingers are in the mail.

    Thorin on March 15th, 2005
  • 8

    You can let Koizumi know the fingers are in the mail.

    Now that’s just nasty. :lol:

    Plunge on March 15th, 2005
  • 9

    Plunge
    Many of older maps referred Sea of Japan also.
    Do you want to change Dokto to Liancourt Rocks ?

    Fed up on March 15th, 2005
  • 10

    Fed up:

    My comment was in regards to your saying the East Sea was a lie. It wasn’t. Neither is Korean Sea. Neither is Sea of Japan. Because all of those have historical usage and, because of the way naming oceans and seas works, East Sea is a good compromise.

    Now, I’m trying to understand the second part of your post. The Dokdo controversy isn’t over a name, in fact the name has nothing to do with it. Ownership of the rocks is the entire issue. So, I guess the answer to your question is no, I see no reason to change the name from Dokto to Liancourt Rocks. I am glad that you recognize the true name of the islands is Dokto though. :mrgreen:

    Plunge on March 15th, 2005
  • 11

    And one more thing, many of older maps reffered Korea as Chinese territory.:lol:

    Well it’s true.

    Fed up on March 15th, 2005
  • 12

    Oh please.

    Plunge on March 15th, 2005
  • 13

    :razz: (that was supposed to be on my last comment)

    Plunge on March 15th, 2005
  • 14

    Fed Up: And one more thing, many of older maps reffered Korea as Chinese territory.

    Old Chinese, Korean and Japanese maps show Manchuria as Korean territory. So what the hell is your point?

    PK on March 15th, 2005
  • 15

    Ok, first, Canada is the US’s largest trading partner. Right now, Italy, France, and the lot are still separate countries.

    Second, South Korea is entirely correct to stake its relationship with Japan on these islands. With the stakes that high, Japan will simply give in and lose–if they are certain that Seoul means business. The analogy would be MAD. Walk softly, and carry a big stick.

    Finally, I’d like to hear more about Japan, and less about Korea on this blog, which I and many others reached via the Marmot’s Hole. I don’t see why you as a blogger in Japan need to harp about South Korea if you aren’t a Japanese nationalist–unless you’re trying to maintain readership of the folks who came here in the same manner I did. For me, at least, it won’t work.

    Nathan B in Seoul on March 15th, 2005
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    Are you saying that the Korea side is the only one worth reporting?

    Are you another one trotting out the old canard that anyone who reports the Japanese side of the story is a Japanese nationalist?

    Anything else you’d like?

    A cup of coffee? A cold towel?

    Diamondback on March 15th, 2005
  • 17

    The post does a great job of showing how silly Koreans are being in regard to the Liancourt Rocks issue; however, I do not see why the writer felt the need to criticize the Japanese ambassador, who was simply stating his country’s position on islets.

    When the reporter asked the ambassador about the islets, was the ambassador supposed to say, “No comment”? Wouldn’t such a response have added support to Korea’s claim? Japan has been claiming the rocks for a hundred years, much longer than Korea has, so what is so inflamatory about the ambassador’s comments? Koreans are the ones pouring the gasoline on this fire, not the Japanese.

    Gerry Bevers on March 15th, 2005
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    When the reporter asked the ambassador about the islets, was the ambassador supposed to say, “No comment”? Wouldn’t such a response have added support to Korea’s claim? Japan has been claiming the rocks for a hundred years, much longer than Korea has, so what is so inflammatory about the ambassador’s comments? Koreans are the ones pouring the gasoline on this fire, not the Japanese.

    Bringing your disingenuous rhetoric here as well Gerry?

    Korea has claimed Dokdo far far longer than 100 years as you well know. Your claims otherwise are the essence of Japan’s position, even if it isn’t true, if we yell loud enough and long enough, someone might believe it.

    Next,it most certainly is Japan throwing gasoline on the fire. This latest round started with Shimane, Japan’s ambassador, and an ill advised plane flight. All three of these originating in Japan. Can Japan be anymore provocative without involving the military?

    Just keep wearing those blinders Gerry.:roll:

    Plunge on March 15th, 2005
  • 19

    Gerry:Japan has been claiming the rocks for a hundred years

    Wow, isn’t that funny. 100 years huh? maybe since around.. um.. 1905? Mayeb right around the time of japanese agression in the region? Maybe around the same time that japan tried to assimulate Korea into its own personal whipping boy?

    You are right! japans claim on the islands is around 100 years old BUt you are incorrect on Koreas claim.

    Juggertha on March 15th, 2005
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    Nathan B: American political blogs frequently have content about American relations with other countries. In the same way, a Japan blog is also occasionally going to have content about Japanese foreign relations. That includes Japanese-Korean relations.

    The post was not what I would consider a “Korean” post. It was a post about how both the Japanese and the Koreans would rather risk potentially excellent relations over (IMO) a trival issue than be happy and prosper.

    Also, both JP and I occasionally cover topics in East Asia other than Japan. This includes China and other places in addition to both Koreas.

    I can assure you that, as fine as Marmot’s blog is, neither of us plan our content on what we think may appeal to certain segments of the people who favor us with their visits. Both of us select articles based on what we think is interesting, and hope that other people think so too.

    Also, I can assure you that neither JP nor I are Japanese nationalists. We are both US citizens, and it will stay that way.

    - Amp

    Ampontan on March 15th, 2005
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    “Great Britain colonized the United States for more than 150 years”

    This is a nonesense. The USA did not existed before the Bristish colonized this territory. And Independence War was a civil war since the people there was British, no matter the history reconstruction that happens afterward (this happens in all countries, by the way).

    Christian on March 15th, 2005
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    How can anyone say that something called “Japan-Korea relations” has nothing to do with Japan?

    The relationship between the two countries and the whatever-you-want-to-call-them islands are covered in great depth by the Japanese media on a daily basis. Both sides of the issue are presented, and hotly debated among Japanese people, some of whom have commented here.

    We don’t plan on turning into a blog that reports only on Japan-Korea issues, but neither to we plan to ignore them.

    JP

    JP on March 15th, 2005
  • 23

    How Plungs sees calling the Sea of Japan “east sea” is pure folly. Yes some maps may have used east sea mr plungs, but the overwhelming majority do not. Would you mr plungs change your name to asswipe just because some kids called you that a few times. Perhaps according to your Gorean logic you would.

    Anyway, if you really cared about this issue you would shave your head and cut off a finger. For Goreans that seems to be the rational responce.

    Dude on March 15th, 2005
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    If it would help mr plungs, i will start by giving you my finger first. Does that sound like a “nice compromise”.

    On another note mr Plung, Japan hasent invaded Gorea since about 1592. The occupation of gorea in 1910 was welcomed with open arms.

    http://www.isop.ucla.edu/eas/documents/kore1910.htm

    Do you think Gorea was TRICKED??? Unfair treaty.. picking on poor Gorea… small country..

    Dude on March 15th, 2005
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    Gorea…..nice name:lol:

    Hi everybody.
    Do you guys think only north korea kidnapped japanese?
    Actually, south korea kidnapped and killed more japanese than north compared to the number which confirmed.
    From 1952 to 1965, 3929 japanese mostly fishermen were kidnapped, 44 japanese were killed by s.korean troops in sea of japan.
    1952 was the year that korean president Syngman Rhee drew the line on sea of japan, 1965 was the year of japan-s.korea basic treaty.

    http://nandakorea.sakura.ne.jp/html/hannichi.html

    @@ on March 15th, 2005
  • 26

    I am following the new rules regarding romanization of Hangul. Kwangju=Gwangju. Korea=Gorea.

    Dude on March 15th, 2005
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    I can assure you that, as fine as Marmot’s blog is, neither of us plan our content on what we think may appeal to certain segments of the people who favor us with their visits. Both of us select articles based on what we think is interesting, and hope that other people think so too.

    Linking is an important part of blogging. Unfortunately, for people surfing through a link onto a blog with which they may not be familiar, one might get the wrong impression of the nature of a particular site from one or two posts. If I gave the impression to some commenters that all this blog discusses is Korea-Japan relations, I should apologize. Just because I like to link to JPs posts (or any particular site’s post) when it does discuss Korea-related issues shouldn’t give one the impression that the particular subject of the post is the exclusive focus of the site.

    Just to note, given the rather sharp diplomatic frictions between Seoul and Tokyo as of late, I wouldn’t find it terribly unreasonable if the JP were posting relatively more posts about pending issues between Korea and Japan that the bloggers here ordinarily would (which would explain my relatively frequent linking to the site recently). Readers of my blog may notice that Japan has featured rather prominantly in my posting as of late, so much so that new readers would be forgiven if they were to get the mistaken impression that the subject is all I talk about. Unfortunately, it is has been the biggest news/Netizen story over the last week, at least on my side of the East Sea, so recent posts have tended to gravitate towards it.

    The Marmot on March 15th, 2005
  • 28

    Hmm, I think I forgot to say that I actually enjoy many of the posts on this blog (and, for that matter, on the Marmot’s blog, which I visit almost daily). I suppose if this is an issue that’s important in Japan, then it’s fair game to comment on it. All I’m saying is that I get this news from the Marmot already, so I’m looking for something new.

    Marmot, I don’t think you need blame yourself at all–I’ve never got the impression from you that you mentioned in the preceding comment.

    Ultimately, I was just sharing my comments (I disagree with JP about South Korea’s stance; I personally don’t care about the issue, but it seems to me that ROK is being quite shrewd to (ostensibly) stake everything on these islands). I was also giving my preferences; of course, the writer(s) of the blog should operate as he/they see fit.

    Nathan B in Seoul on March 15th, 2005
  • 29

    Dude–

    If you truly believe what you wrote, you are a sad, sad person. You also prove the point of how inadequately Japan teaches history.

    Plunge on March 15th, 2005
  • 30

    Y’all are being silly. There are plenty of old maps in the world with “Here Be Monsters” written where the US stands today. Should we therefore give the country back to the monsters? Or how about the Indians (Native Monsterites). Should they get it back?

    Grow up. It is a couple of rocks. Work out a compromise and get back to the business of making money (cause isn’t that what life is all about?).

    corsair the rational pirate on March 16th, 2005
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    Asia by Blog

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    Simon World on March 16th, 2005
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    Korean gov first said that the name of “East sea” was changed to “sea of Japan” by imperial Japan during colonial period.

    Now they changed story -> “many older maps, the area between Korea and Japan was referred to as either the “East Sea””

    See they are liar.

    kisaeng on March 16th, 2005
  • 33

    ummm… no.

    Plunge on March 17th, 2005
  • 34

    To assign truth to one country’s argument - or dismiss the other’s as false - without research or tact is both irresponsible and ignorant.

    I enjoy the window your site provides into Japan, but I hope this sort of propagandistic posting is reconsidered in the future.

    - faithful reader

    Jon on March 17th, 2005

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