Mandarin Orange Blossom Special
11/03/2005 @ 6:00 am
Sometimes called “Japan’s southernmost prefecture,” Taiwan has borrowed another page from the Japanese playbook and has built its own “bullet train,” capable of doing the length of the entire island in just 90 minutes, with stops at seven elevated stations.

To build it, engineers from Japan, South Korean, Britain, the USA and Holland came to Taiwan for five years everything’s ”almost” ready.
It’s supposed to be up and running by this time next year, and the Taiwanese are quite excited about having their own ‘’shinkansen”.
I agree that it’s a neat idea to be able to commute from Taichung to Taipei in 45 minutes, but in reality the high-speed rail project is waaaaay behind schedule and has been mired in corruption scandals for years now. Regular service is supposed to start next year, but many acknowledge that this target might still be too ambitious.
November 3rd, 2005 at 6:33 amYes, the shinkansen in Taiwan is way behind schedule and it may not be up in running until 2007 now. They say 2006, but who knows. And a new report says the land in Yunlin County is sinking and the tracks might be unsafe there. Ouch!
November 3rd, 2005 at 1:46 pmSure, in a nation where 90% of the households don’t have a sewer connection, spending billions on a project that can never hope to acheive an economic return is a real good idea.
There’s nothing to be proud of here. What a colossal waste!
November 3rd, 2005 at 3:54 pmMichael: I’m not saying Taiwan’s right or wrong to spend on that railway, but your comment could easily have applied to Japan in 1964, and yet…
November 3rd, 2005 at 4:11 pmJapan’s original Tokyo-Osaka shinkansen proved to be both a technological and commercial success, so much so that the system has been extended to cover much of the nation. Not all the extensions are in the black yet, perhaps, but judging from my experience in trying to snag unreserved seats I’d say the overall system is bound to show profit.
Just another point on economic return. As with highways, this cannot be measured only in ticket sales. Like highways, trains increase the economic activity in areas they serve - usually far beyond any revenue one would hope to gain from passengers alone.
Which brings us to the sewer issue. I believe that it’s unwise to to invest in sewer connections at the expense of economic development, which itself will solve the sewer connection problem, and many other problems.
Whether or not the high-speed train will provide a sufficient economic boost for its cost is certainly questionable, but nobody can claim to know one way or the other at this point.
November 3rd, 2005 at 7:39 pmDoes the Japan bullet train really make money? My understanding is that it covers its operating costs plus a little left over on some lines, but has never returned the capital invested.
It is true that large projects often generate economic multipliers that are difficult to quantify. But almost *any* large infrastructure project will do that — if Taiwan had spent those billions on some other project that not only generated the same economic multipliers, it could have the same effect and serve a much broader class of people than the thin crust who can afford tickets on the Bullet Train. Imagine if the island had built wind power plants off the coasts, or punched a four lane over or through the mountains to connect the east and west coasts…..there are lots of possibilities. Not to mention environmental cleanup, water purification, etc etc etc, all of which can drive new Taiwan industries. The Bullet Train won’t.
Also, the OP says that it can do the Taipei-Kaohsiung run in 90 minutes, which is technically true, but with some dozen stops, it will be more like 150 minutes.
It is true that no one can see into the future for certain, but a good indicator of its viability is that all of the private investors have pulled out of the project.
The Bullet Train is real neat, but it is a toy. Every day the water system here leaks out 30% of the water that goes through it, some 300 million toilet flushes every day — the deficit is made up by pumping groundwater, causing the subsidence that the previous poster referred to. Priorities are badly misplaced here. Taiwan is not Japan, much, I think, to the regret of the locals.
Michael
November 4th, 2005 at 8:03 amMichael, I agree that a four-lane would be more useful than a bullet train. I am not overly familiar with Taiwan, but I know the current train service is not so bad. A bullet train does nothing for the movement of goods, unlike a highway.
November 4th, 2005 at 8:29 amAlso, at it can do the Taipei-Kaohsiung run in 90 minutes, which is technically true, but with some dozen stops, it will be more like 150 minutes.
That’s the real story. The ads say 90 minutes, but in reality it will be two hours plus, with ten minutes at each station along the way. I think I will ride it once and then go back to bus service. Does the trick.
On the other hand, I like the IDEA of this bullet train, and when up and running, as they say, it will add some luster to Taiwan’s international image so in terms of tourism potential, it is a good investment. That’s just what the Japan bullet train has been, an iconic image of Mt Fuji in the background with the shinkansen flying by on a cloudless day. Perfect tourism come on. The Taiwan bullet train will do the same trick, PR-wise. Watch!
November 4th, 2005 at 3:38 pmI thought that said “…with stops at seven eleven stations…”
Ready so soon? I don’t think so! This is Taiwan! Isn’t Gaoxiong’s (Kaohsiung) subway supposed to be ready by some unreachable time too? I like Taiwan’s buses. Around 5 hours Gaoxiong to Taibei (Taipei) sitting in a massage chair and watching movies or sleeping. But the crowd to catch a bus back at peak times can be a long and annoying wait, especially in the rain. The bullet train is going to be cool, I’m looking forward to it, but I don’t think Taiwan needed to build it so soon.
November 5th, 2005 at 9:56 amI will be first in line.
November 5th, 2005 at 1:38 pmA question: How long does it currently take from Taichung to Taipei?
November 5th, 2005 at 1:46 pmby express train? two hours….
November 5th, 2005 at 2:06 pm“Taiwan is not Japan, much, I think, to the regret of the locals.”
Sorry Michael, you think wrong. There are a lot of people, a majority in fact, who do not wish that Taiwan was Japan. Most of us like Taiwan just the way it is, faults and all.
The train runs to Gaoxiong, JP.
November 7th, 2005 at 11:50 pmHigh Speed Hijinks
The first high-speed test of the Taiwan High Speed Rail 高速鐵路即將通車 ‘bullet train’ made headlines today, in an attempt to counter bad press last month from a 1 year delay, near-bankruptcy, and government infusion of NT$7.5 billion (US$230 million).
A quick comparison of the different transportation methods to Kaohsiung shows storm clouds ahead for the already shaky service, first approved by KMT saboteur and Japanophile 李登輝, Lee Tung-Hui during better economic times.
Airplane: NT$2000 for a 60 minute ride
Expected THSR fare: NT$1200 for a 81 minute ride
Current local train fare: NT$800 for a 4 hour ride
Such a small country doesn’t need an expensive, imported rail system that sucks further dollars out of Taiwan. The rail system is incompatible with current rail lines, and is completely separate from the current infrastructure. The entire project has been designed and built in Japan, then transferred to Taiwan where Japanese and European engineerrs and suppliers squabble over implementation. All this contributes nothing to local economies or Taiwan. The DPP is holding out the carrot of future growth, while spending money that would probably be put to better used if directly infused into the economy. However, Taiwan Shinkansen chairwoman 殷琪 Nita Ing has long been a devoted supporter of ROC President 陳水扁Chen Shui-Bian, so we can take all heart at the knowledge that there must be some other form of contribution coming back to Taiwan.
Last month’s bailout, which used a loophole to circumvent a standing legislative resolution against investing further funds, was inexplicably financed by the Aviation Development Fund, the owner of China Airlines, Taiwan’s national carrier. The DPP was so desperate to keep the pet project going, it essentially got the national airline to finance its own competitor. No conflict of interest there at all, really. And let’s not forget that the capital city of Taipei STILL doesn’t have anything other than a bus link to the national airport.
November 8th, 2005 at 12:57 pm[...] The newly-built High Speed Rail bullet train (and supplied with Shinkansen know-how) is now operating outside Japan, and I took a ride on it the other day, along with throngs of Lunar New Year sightseers, too — family groups, kids, grandparents, the whole shebang for holiday trips — and it was a marvelous, fantastic experience. I’ve ridden the Shinkansen from Tokyo to Nagano and loved the speed there, too. [...]
February 22nd, 2007 at 12:05 pm